Archive-name: motif-faq/part2 Last-modified: 1 FEB 2002 Posting-Frequency: irregular Organization: Kenton Lee, X/Motif Consultant, http://www.rahul.net/kenton/ URL: http://www.rahul.net/kenton/mfaq.html Version: 8.1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 20) Where can I find Motif 2.1 documentation? [Last modified: Mar 98] Answer: A full listing of current Motif and CDE manuals in book form is available at http://www.opengroup.org/pubs/catalog/mo.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 21)* Is the official Motif documentation available on-line? [Last modified: Jan 02] Answer: Open Motif documentation in PDF and PostScript formats is available at: http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/docs/ The O'Reilly Motif tutorial books are available at: http://www.ist.co.uk/NEWS/archive/motifbooks.html http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/motif/ Here are some Russian translations of the Motif manuals: http://motif.hut.ru/ For other on-line Motif documentation, please see: http://www.rahul.net/kenton/xsites.framed.html Ken Lee, http://www.rahul.net/kenton/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 22) I want to use C++ with Motif. Where can I find C++ examples? Motif 2.0 supports native C++ classes but I can't find documentation. [Last modified: Sept 95] Answer: Doug Rand <drand@sgi.com> writes: "There are some examples in the demos tree, look under demos/lib/ExmCxx for widget examples. The C++ support was only a widget writer's tool. When the widget writer's guide is out, you can also look in that for documentation." Scott W. Sadler <sws@iti-oh.com> replied to a related question about combining Motif with C++: "There are two books available (that I know of): Object-Oriented Programming with C++ and OSF/Motif - Second Edition Doug Young 0-13-209255-7 (c) 1995 Using Motif with C++ Daniel Bernstein 0-13-207390-0 or 1-884842-06-2 (c) 1995" See also the subject: "Is there a C++ binding for Motif?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 23) Is Motif 2.0 backward compatible with Motif 1.2? Does a program written for Motif 1.2 compile and run with Motif 2.0? [Last modified: Jan 96] Answer: (See also the next subject.) Doug Rand <drand@sgi.com> writes: "It is backward compatible except where it isn't :) 1) Subclassed widgets which do not use XmResolvePartOffsets won't work. 2) If you free your XmStrings using any technique other than XmStringFree, it is quite likely that your program either won't compile, or will crash with a core dump at runtime. [Wording change for (2) provided by Alan Ezust (ezust@learnix.ca).] 3) If you use libMrm and relink with the new shared library, you'll need to make the new modern .uid files (but if you wait for the Motif from CDE you don't need to do this one). 4) If you assume that XmStrings are ASN.1 strings and play with them, it won't work. They are now data structures. But the good news is that XmStringCopy just increments a reference count now. Note that #1 and #2 where always documented this way and aren't supposed to work. Otherwise, it's pretty compatible. We relinked a number of things and they continued fine. [These] include xrn (Motif), and a couple of other moderately big things. I want to say we did xmosaic, but I can't remember if I'm right about that. #1 isn't a problem if you recompile your subclassed widgets. But then there is a source compatibility problem that you may need to include the obsolete modules for the _Xm functions. Proper 2.0 subclasses use Xme functions, and there is even a document." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 24) How compatible are Motif 1.2.* and X11R6? [Last modified: July 96] Answer: (See also the previous subject.) This is actually several related questions with answers from David B. Lewis (d.lewis@opengroup.org) and Kenton Lee (http://www.rahul.net/kenton/). 1. Is it possible to run an X11R6 server with a Motif 1.2.* runtime environment (Motif libs and Motif Window Manager)? David> Yes. The X11 protocol has not changed in its various versions, so all X servers are compatible. There are differences, though, in the fonts that are available and in a few of the gray areas in the interpretation of the protocol. The fonts distributed by the X Consortium form a standard set, though, and I know of no cases in which changes in X11R6 cause problems for Motif programs (we are using Motif with X11R6 servers here). 2. Is there any possible conflict with Motif 1.2.* applications and an X11R6 server (assuming a Motif 1.2.* runtime environment)? David> The only situation that I could imagine is a case in which Motif 1.2 code was written to depend on a particular bug or behavior of an X11R5 server; I know of no such cases. Because of the stability of the X11 protocol, Motif 1.2 programs should work with any available X server, current and future. 3. If Motif 2.0 is installed such that the Motif libraries and mwm are versions 2.0, is there 100% binary compatibility with statically linked Motif 1.2.* applications? If not, what are the known or potential problems? David> There are additional support files in both the Motif and X11 areas which are used at run-time. There are no known problems using Motif 1.2 *static* applications in a Motif 2.0 environment. Kenton writes: R6 was designed to be backwards binary compatible with R5 and most vendors have done a good job in implementing this. Still, I wouldn't recommend that my customers do this until I tested configurations similar to theirs. Motif 2.0 is backwards compatible with Motif 1.X in most cases. I think Doug Rand's comments in [the previous subject of the Motif FAQ] covers the important issues. In general, well written applications shouldn't have problems, but some applications aren't well written. Again, I would test before making recommendations to my customers. The above comments apply to run-time linking (shared library) compatibility. If you statically link, the only problems I can imagine are the common ones like installed fonts, supported server extensions, input methods, color name databases, default visual types, etc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 25) Why aren't the big UNIX vendors shipping Motif 2.0? [Last modified: Aug 98] Answer: Most of these companies decided to move to CDE 1.0 first. CDE 1.0 uses Motif 1.2.5, which is not binary compatible with Motif 2.0. Motif 2.1 was released in February, 1997. Motif 2.1 is compatible with CDE 2.1 and (mostly) Motif 1.2. You should expect the big UNIX vendors to start shipping Motif 2.1 when they start shipping CDE 2.1. Ken Lee ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 26) Where can I get Motif for UNIX, Linux, or Microsoft Windows? [Last modified: Jun 98] Answer: A regularly updated list of Motif vendors for various operating systems (including Linux and Microsoft Windows) is available at: http://www.rahul.net/kenton/GettingMotif.html Please send any corrections to kenton@nojunk.rahul.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 27) Is there a list of Motif bugs? Answer: With each patch release of Motif shipped, there is a list of known bugs provided. The filename on the tape is "./OPENBUGS". There is also a list of all the issues closed/resolved in that patch. That is found as part of the "./README-1.1.n" (where n is the patch number) file. These are the only OSF published lists. No one else seems to publish a list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 28) Where can I get a Motif 1.2 Certification Checklist? [Last modified: Apr 95] Answer: Kevin Till (kev@osf.org) of OSF wrote: "The Checklist comes with the OSF/Motif 1.2 Style Guide documentation. It's in the Appendix B section." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 29) What is CDE? What is COSE and how does it relate to Motif? [Last modified: Sept 94] Answer: [For more current information, see also the subjects which follow this one.] NOTE: This info dates back to a Nov. '93 conference. Most of the words should be credited to the lecturer, Nicholas J. Aiuto (nick@ps.quotron.com) of Cadence Design Systems, Inc. Any mistakes or inaccuracies are mine, however. I would appreciate updates and corrections...kenton@nojunk.rahul.net COSE is Common Open Software Environment, a major interoperability effort started by HP, Sun, Novell/UNIX System Labs (USL), IBM, and SCO, with over 70 other companies pledging their support. The COSE announcement was made in March, 1993 and a "COSE CDE Conference" was held in San Jose in October, 1993. CDE is the Common Desktop Environment component of COSE. CDE is "a specification for components and services to give the UNIX desktop common and consistent capabilities like those found in other widely used environments (Mac, Windows)." [from class notes] CDE is not public domain; it will be provided by major vendors, possibly at extra cost as unbundled s/w approximately mid 1994. CDE will be based on Motif 1.2 and X11R5, although Motif 2.0 and X11R6 are expected around the same time. (CDE will be ported to Motif 2.0 eventually.) A CD-ROM was distributed at the October, 1993 conference, but this was "alpha" s/w, strictly for evaluation purposes, not for development. Another COSE/CDE Snapshot CD-ROM was released in April '94, available for HP, IBM, Novell, and Sun platforms. Overview -------- Standards are to be defined in these areas: - desktop - networking - objects - graphics - system management CDE Functional Groups: High Level: - Desktop Management - Productivity Tools Low Level: - GUI Display and Printing - Application Integration - "Guidelines": a 100+ pg. checklist which is a superset of Motif's CDE Desktop Management ---------------------- - Login Manager: like xdm - Session Manager: saving state based on ICCCM and HP's VUE [vuesession] - Workspace Manager: virtual screens; rooms; virtual win mgr - Front Panel: object and window management; access to favorite apps - File Manager: icon drag and drop - Application Manager - Style Manager: configure Session Mgr (colors, fonts, HOME session) Productivity Tools ------------------ - Text Editor: based on XmText widget; not very fancy - Icon Editor: color pixmaps; based on HP's vueicon; need 16 icons per app - Help Viewer: can access app help without running application - Mailer and Calendar: can talk to each other - Terminal Emulator: improvement on xterm - Calculator - Create "Action": something you tell your system to do and associate with a specific icon (e.g., starting a favorite app); can also tag a specific command line and add to your desktop GUI Display and Printing ------------------------ - Motif 1.2 with extras, X11R5 - New widgets (subclasses of similar widgets to be in Motif 2.0): o ComboBox o SpinButton - dtksh: windowing Korn shell, a robust UNIX shell interface to X, Xlib, and Xm - Application Builder: port of Sun's DevGuide [not yet available] - X Print Server and X Server Print Extension Application Integration ----------------------- - Data Interchange o Drag and Drop (DND): based on Motif 1.2 with improvements o Bento container format: "Japanese lunchbox" compartmented container developed by Apple; stores compound document on disk; apps can find audio compartment, for example 100-page document describes Bento - ToolTalk o messaging/IPC facility developed by Sun o CDE message sets (sample msgsd: iconify yourself, close down, etc.) - Actions o define what can be done with files or arbitrary data (e.g., audio) - Data Typing o define data classes for objects (e.g., PS file, C source code) Guidelines ---------- - Common Fonts (about 16): proportional, monospaced, with or without serif - Internationalization (I18N) compliance - Client/Server o Network execution model o end user model o system admin model: facilitates easy installation of new CDE-compliant apps o ISV model - Certification Checklist: 100 pages; superset of Motif 1.2 Certif. Checklist ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 30)* Is there a CDE FAQ or newsgroup? [Last modified: Aug 2001] Answer: The CDE FAQ is located at: http://www.laxmi.net/cde.htm There is also a newsgroup called news:comp.unix.cde ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 31) What is the current version of CDE and what are its features? [Last modified: May 97] Answer: The latest version of CDE is 2.1 as announced by OSF in February 1997. The following is the Open Group's press release: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT Jane Smeloff The Open Group (617) 621-8997 j.smeloff@opengroup.org Marilyn Kilcrease Fleishman Hillard, Inc. (415) 356-1031 kilcream@fleishman.com The Open Group Announces Common Desktop Environment 2.1 New features enhance the functionality and ease of use of the widely used graphical user interface for open desktop computing CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts (February 5, 1997) - The Open Group, the leading organization for the advancement of open systems, today announced the release of CDE 2.1, the latest version of The Open Group's Common Desktop Environment. The current release integrates the Motif 2.0 graphical user interface, X Window System, and CDE to standardize application presentations in distributed multi-platform environments. "As a result of solid cooperation among project participants, we are delivering significant new features which makes CDE and Motif a unified face for UNIX environments," said Dave Lounsbury, vice president of collaborative development. "The CDE 2.1 project was the most extensive collaborative development effort in the history of The Open Group." The latest release of CDE features enhanced tools for creating integrated graphical desktop applications. New features include thread-safe libraries, 64-bit system support, an X-based printing solution that implements a standard way of printing from any application, an enhanced, SGML-based on-line help system with a complete documentation set, "on the spot" input, and user- defined characters for Asian languages. Many capabilities have been added to ease programming, including traits, which enable user interface objects to automatically inherit multiple API specifications, and a uniform transfer model, which offer developers a consistent means of coding the different data-transfer mechanisms (such as cut-and-paste and drag-and-drop). The new release also provides a simple means of coding pop-up windows. CDE 2.1 also incorporates Motif 2.0 user interface objects (widgets) spin box, combo box, container, and notebook. With this release, the style guides for CDE and Motif converge. The fee for a CDE 2.1 full-distribution source code license is $40,000. An evaluation copy of source code costs $5,000. To order CDE 2.1, contact Open Group Direct, at 1-800-268-5245, or send e-mail to direct@opengroup.org. Introduced in 1995, CDE was jointly developed and licensed by Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell, and SunSoft. Since that time, the technology has evolved within The Open Group's Pre-Structured Technology (PST) process, a multi-vendor technology development program. Currently, Hitachi, Fujitsu, Digital Equipment Corporation and SCO work with the original CDE sponsors, IBM, HP and SunSoft within the Open Group's PST framework, to provide for the maintenance of CDE and the development of new releases. The Common Desktop Environment is a graphical user interface that delivers consistency and ease of use to system administrators as well as end users. With CDE, system administrators gain a degree of control over the desktop computing environment that has often been lost in the move from centralized to client-server or distributed computing. CDE gives end users access to the power and flexibility of today's networked desktop systems. The Open Group Dedicated to the advancement of multi-vendor information systems, The Open Group is an international consortium of systems and software vendors and customers from the industry, government and academia. The Open Group and its members work together to strengthen and streamline the development process and availability of open systems. The organization provides a focal point for the development of international specifications and test suites, standards based technologies, advanced open systems research, professional services and the management of the internationally recognized brand for open systems. The Open Group's brand mark is recognized worldwide and is a guarantee of compliance to open systems specifications. The Open Group is Headquartered in Cambridge, MA, with European headquarters in Reading, England and offices in Menlo Park, CA; Brussels, Belgium; Grenoble, France; and Tokyo, Japan. The Open Group is a trademark of the Open Software Foundation, Inc. and X/Open Company Ltd. OSF/Motif and Motif are registered trademarks of The Open Group. X Window System is a trademark of The Open Group and the X Consortium is a trademark of The Open Group. UNIX is a registered trademark in the US and other countries, licensed exclusively through X/Open Company Ltd. All other products or company names mentioned are used for identification purposes only, and may be trademarks of their respective owners. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 32) How does Motif relate to X/Open and CDE? [Last modified: Mar 96] A. NOTE: This answer from Sept. 1995 is somewhat obsolete due to the formation of The Open Group. See "What is The Open Group?"....ksall@cen.com From OSF's CDE/Motif Program Manager, Terry Landers (landers@osf.org): "In response to the discussion [on comp.windows.x.motif] of Motif and "officially supported" APIs ... two areas were brought up that I hope to be able to clarify. Standards: ========= As you probably know, Motif has become an X/Open standard. The X/Open specification was based on the OSF AES, and going forward the X/Open specification will take precedence. As part of the CDE/Motif PST, interface extensions to the XMotif specification will be proposed to X/Open. Although it is too early to discuss what will be proposed to X/Open, OSF members who are interested will have early access to CDE/Motif functional specifications as part of the Desktop SIG activities. Convergence: =========== OSF has taken the first step in convergence with the release of Motif 1.2.5. Motif 1.2.5 merges OSF Motif 1.2.4 with CDE Motif and defect fixes to the 1.2 code base that were made in Motif 2.0. The next step in convergence will come with the CDE/Motif PST deliverables. I hope this has helped ... if you have any questions you can contact me at: landers@osf.org 617-621-7282" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 33) What is The Open Group? [Last modified: Aug 97] Answer: On February 14, 1996, X/Open and OSF merged to form "The Open Group". which calls The Open Group a "New Organization to Improve Coordination of Efforts to Develop and Implement Common Standards and New Technologies". You might also want to read other press releases from The Open Group and visit their home page: http://www.opengroup.org/ Below is the announcement sent by OSF's Kristen Knotts...ksall@cen.com To: OSF.Support.Subscribers:;@osf.org Subject: X/Open & OSF Join to Form The Open Group Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:26:53 -0500 From: Kristen Knotts <kjk@osf.org> During a press conference at UniForum '96, officials of X/Open Company, Ltd. and the Open Software Foundation (OSF), the two leading consortia for the advancement of open systems, announced their consolidation into a new, more powerful worldwide organization known as The Open Group. The new entity has been formed to strengthen and streamline the entire open systems process, including adoption of open systems specifications, development of specification-compliant technologies, and promotion of their use in the global enterprise computing marketplace. Full information can be obtained from The Open Group Web Site: http://www.opengroup.org/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 34) Is The Open Group assuming responsibility for the X Window System? [Last modified: July 96] A. Yes it will, at the beginning of 1997. See the X Consortium's announcement at: X Consortium to Transfer X Window System to The Open Group It is reproduced _in part_ below for your convenience, followed by a related announcement from The Open Group. Cambridge, Massachusetts - July 1, 1996 - X Consortium, Inc. today announced that it would transfer responsibility for the X Window System to The Open Group at the beginning of next year. "X is now mainstream technology, and since the first commercial release in 1986 it has matured to the point where a dedicated consortium is no longer essential to its on-going support," explains Robert W. Scheifler, president of the X Consortium. "Our industry will benefit greatly by continuing and accelerating the convergence of X, Motif and the Common Desktop Environment (CDE) into a unified technology stack. This is already well underway with the current CDE-Motif PST project, operating under the auspices of The Open Group, an organization that is well positioned to take this technology into the future." The Open Group will continue their existing work of publishing, testing and branding products which conform to international standards, including X. "As a long standing partner with the X Consortium in the Open Systems industry, The Open Group supports this decision. On a personal note, I want to add that the computer industry owes an enormous debt of gratitude to Bob Scheifler and the X Consortium for the service they have provided for the last eight years," commented Jim Bell, CEO of The Open Group. "Their very positive impact on our industry will continue to be felt for years to come." As part of this change, X Consortium plans to wind down all engineering operations at the end of this year. "I have made a commitment to our members, and to the sponsors of the CDE-Motif project, to oversee the entire transition process from now until our current engineering projects are finished and the hand-off is complete," said Scheifler. The X Consortium will work with its members and The Open Group to determine whether the organization should continue on in some reduced fashion. Broadway, the code name for the next release of the X Window System, will be completed as planned by the end of the year, and will be made freely available to the public under the same terms as previous X Consortium releases. Broadway enables interactive UNIX and Windows applications to be integrated, unmodified, into HTML documents and published on World Wide Web servers, using plug-in technology, and includes network protocols for graphics and audio to provide remote access to those applications from inside Web browsers. The Broadway release is expected to be available from current sources, including worldwide ftp sites and CDROM distributors. The X Consortium will fulfill its obligations as prime contractor in The Open Group's Pre-Structured Technology (PST) project developing the next release of CDE and Motif. "The plan has always been to complete both the CDE-Motif project and Broadway by the end of this year," says Jim Fournier, Director of Engineering. "We are confident in our ability to deliver as planned." ************************ A related announcement from corpcom@opengroup.com (The Open Group Corporate Communications) was sent July 1, 1996, an excerpt of which appears below: The Open Group Continues to Expand Product and Services Portfolio Leading Open Systems Consortium Absorbs X Window System Technology The Open Group announced today as an addition to its growing portfolio of products and services, it will assume custodianship for the X Window System technology, currently owned and managed by the X Consortium. In its press release today, the X Consortium also declared that it will continue to fulfill its obligations as prime contractor in The Open Group CDE Pre- Structured Technology (PST) project, developing the next releases of CDE and Motif, scheduled to be completed by year end, and then cease its internal engineering operations. "Since its first commercial release in 1986, the X Window System has matured to the point where a full-scale, dedicated consortium is no longer essential to the on-going support of the technology," said Robert W. Scheifler, X Consortium president and founder. "In light of our existing relationship it makes sense to fold our ongoing work into The Open Group. Furthermore, given the overlapping membership of the two organizations, this move will greatly streamline and enhance the process of defining open standards." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 35) What are the current correct trademark statements for X and Motif? [Last modified: May 97] Answer: The Open Group is a trademark of the Open Software Foundation, Inc. and X/Open Company Ltd. OSF/Motif and Motif are registered trademarks of The Open Group. X Window System is a trademark of The Open Group and the X Consortium is a trademark of The Open Group. UNIX is a registered trademark in the US and other countries, licensed exclusively through X/Open Company Ltd. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 36) Will CDE and Motif converge? What is the CDE/Motif JDA? [Last modified: May 97] Answer: I'm leaving the following announcement here for historical reference. Note that the converged CDE/Motif was released in February, 1997 and is called CDE/Motif 2.1. A press release is included earlier in this FAQ. In September, 1995, OSF announced the Joint Development Agreement under which vendors will participate in a plan to converge Motif and CDE. The announcement follows. From kjk@osf.org Fri Sep 8 17:55:55 1995 To: OSF.Motif.Support.Subscribers:;@osf.org Cc: OSF.Service.Subscribers:;@osf.org Subject: OSF Press Release Announcing Signing of CDE/Motif JDA Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 17:46:04 -0400 From: Kristen Knotts <kjk@osf.org> To: OSF Motif Support Subscribers From: The Open Software Foundation ************************************************************ OSF MOTIF SUPPORT ELECTRONIC UPDATE ************************************************************ An electronic mail news update for Motif Support Subscribers from the Open Software Foundation (OSF) CONTACT: Jack Dwyer Open Software Foundation (617) 621-7246 Email: dwyer@osf.org OSF Announces Formal Launch of CDE/Motif Project Multi-vendor project to enhance and converge OSF/Motif and the Common Desktop Environment CAMBRIDGE, MA September 7, 1995 -- The Open Software Foundation today announced the formal signing of the Joint Development Agreement for the further enhancement and evolution of the Common Desktop Environment (CDE) and OSF/Motif under the Open Software Foundation's Pre-Structured Technology (PST) development process. The seven sponsors of the CDE/Motif PST are Digital Equipment Corp., Fujitsu Limited, Hewlett-Packard Company, Hitachi, Ltd, IBM Corp., Novell, Inc., and SunSoft, Inc. The CDE/Motif PST is a cooperative, multi-vendor, development project. The Open Software Foundation's PST process allows for existing technologies from multiple vendors to be further developed and integrated into a complete open system technology. The X Consortium has been designated as the project's prime contractor. CDE/Motif will continue the evolution of the desktop technologies necessary to meet the expanding user requirements in such areas as On-line Information Access, Printing, and Internationalization. A key objective of the PST is to fully converge OSF/Motif and the CDE version of Motif into a single development stream. The resulting PST technology will be binary compatible with CDE 1.0. Mr. Don Harbert, Vice President of UNIX Business Segment for Digital Equipment Corporation said, "Digital is an enthusiastic participant in the development of the next version of CDE. As a founding member of the Open Software Foundation and the first vendor to ship a commercial version of the X Window System, Digital recognizes the importance of standard user interfaces and the importance of the PST process in developing code." "Fujitsu is pleased to support the evolution of CDE and Motif technology, both by contributing the Fujitsu OLIAS technology for a robust CDE Online Information Access feature, and by improving CDE/Motif Internationalization. Providing a common user interface over many different hardware systems is critical to the future of Open Systems", said Mitsuru Sanagi, General Manager of the Client Server System Strategy and Alliance Division, Fujitsu Limited. "As one of the original development partners for CDE and as a current supplier of CDE technology in AIX, IBM is committed to enhanced usability for our AIX customers," said Donna Van Fleet, Vice President for AIX Systems Development, IBM RISC System/6000 Division. "Now, as one of the sponsors of this new PST, we continue the enhancements to CDE that will provide even more ease-of-use value for our customers, while maintaining all the benefits of an open technology." "CDE is important, industry-unifying technology and Novell is looking forward to working with the other CDE/Motif sponsors to continue its development," noted Don McGovern, Vice President, Operating System Division, Novell, Inc. "As chair of the CDE/Motif PST Steering Committee, SunSoft is pleased by the active participation and strong commitment for this project. This clearly underscores the strong industry support for open systems," said Paula Sager, Vice President of Desktop Technologies, SunSoft, Inc. "We are looking forward to working with our partners to deliver the best open user environment available." "We're excited that we are able to contribute to this important industry initiative ", said Robert W. Scheifler, President of X Consortium. "CDE/Motif combines premier desktop technologies and builds on what is now a long line of products founded upon X. There is a lot of synergy between the X Consortium's objectives and the goals of the CDE/Motif PST. Our involvement as the prime contractor for this project is a logical extension of that fact." The base technologies for the CDE/Motif PST are CDE 1.0 and OSF/Motif 2.0. On-line Information Access will include an SGML-based browser, the ability to display and print SGML documents, full text search and retrieval, and integration with the on-line help facility. Enhanced internationalization capabilities will include the ability to display vertical text, support for user defined characters, input method selection at run time, and an on-the-spot input method capability. Print capabilities include a graphical interface for print job submission, a single API for both display and printing, printing support for Motif text and label widgets, help, calendar, mail and the text editor. In the process, CDE/Motif will be made thread safe and will include support for 64-bit architectures. The output of this PST joint development will be a merged CDE/Motif source package, a standalone version of Motif, and conformance tests for both CDE and Motif. Upon completion, the conformance test suites will be offered to X/Open for their branding purposes. Also offered to X/Open will be a merged style guide for CDE and Motif, the Motif Drag and Drop protocol, and API extensions to CDE and Motif. The first deliverable of the CDE/Motif PST will be a maintenance release for CDE 1.0 planned for the end of 1995. The schedule further calls for a CDE/Motif snapshot to be made available to licensees in mid-1996, with general availability of CDE/Motif scheduled for the end of 1996. For more information on CDE/Motif, you are invited to contact David Knorr, OSF CDE/Motif Business Area Manager, at +617-621-7227 or dknorr@osf.org. The Open Software Foundation delivers technology innovations in all areas of open systems, including interoperability, scalability, portability, and usability. OSF has created a coalition of worldwide vendors and users in industry, government and academia that leverage their economic investments by working together to provide the best open systems technology solutions for distributed computing environments. Headquartered in Cambridge, MA, with offices in Brussels, Grenoble and Tokyo, OSF has more then 380 members worldwide. ### OSF, OSF/Motif, and Open Software Foundation are trademarks of the Open Software Foundation, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 37)* Has anyone done a public domain Motif lookalike? [Last modified: Feb 02] Answer: Open Motif is open source, but not public domain. This following may be of interest to public domain purists. LessTif is a freeware version of Motif from the Hungry Programmers. It is still in development and is intended to be source code compatible with Motif, meaning that the same source will compile with both libraries and work exactly the same. [Thanks to John W. Carbone, jwc@li.net, Chris Toshok (toshok@hungry.com), and Jon Fo (jonf@protocol.com)] For more information, see http://www.lesstif.org/ Tcl/Tk is available for ftp from allspice.berkeley.edu, and although implemented without Xt, has a "strict Motif" mode. There is also Tix, the Tk Interface Extension. See: http://www.sunlabs.com/research/tcl/ http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~ioi/tix/tix.html Strom Sytems (18666 Redmond Way o-2118, Redmond, WA 98052-6725) have a Simple Toolkit for X-Windows (sic) that appears to follow the Style Guide even though it doesn't quite look like Motif. MOOLIT is a USL product that can be runtime switched between the Sun Open Look and Motif appearance. It is based on OLIT 4i. Interviews is a C++ based product with appearance similar to Motif. A ftp- able version of the source code and documentation can be found on interviews.stanford.edu. Fresco (http://www.iuk.tu-harburg.de/fresco/) and ivtools (http://www.vectaport.com/ivtools/) are based on Interviews. Simon J. Lyall (simon@darkmere.midland.co.nz) reported about a package called: Xu-lib & Widget Set- a library & widget set to "emulate" the look&feel and the programming interface of Motif. Contact the author Udo Baumgart (U.BAUMGART@ldb.han.de) for details. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 38) Does the Open Group have an application compliance validation service? [Last modified: Aug 97] Answer: The Motif Toolkit API Verification Suite (VSM4) replaces the earlier Motif Branding Program. For more information on VSM4, see http://www.opengroup.org/tech/desktop/ordering/motif.price.list.htm#branding ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 39) What is the motif-talk mailing list? Answer: The motif-talk mailing list is only for those who have purchased a Motif source code license. You can be placed on this list by emailing to motif-talk-request@osf.org, citing your Company name and source license number. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF PART TWO
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